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I suppose that it was easier and cheaper than spending millions on a new engine.
I saw this on BBC news this morning, the person from Emissions Analytics was very cagey on how she stated things.

New Engine program would probably be about 1 Billion dollars incl the engine Design & equipping a factory.

I doubt very much if this affair will be less than a new engine, 11 million vehicles now affected according top the BBC article, and more importantly how many sales will they lose until customer confidence is restored.

Graphic from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34328689

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compare that to the recent Ford award for being one of the top 100 most ethical companies, and these are independent awards.

http://www.examiner.com/article/ford-motor-company-wins-ethics-award

http://www.ford.co.uk/experience-ford/AboutFord/top-100-ethical-companies
 

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It's crazy what some companies get up to and think that no one will ever find out. This is boardering on commercial suicide with the fine and loss in consumer confidence
 

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:yep: Yup, the cost of clearing this one up will no doubt be into the £Billions apparently... WHOOPS! :smile: :facepalm: Did they really think that no-one (outside VW) would discover what the engines were really like? :facepalm:
 

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The question is if along with the emissions they will do anything with unrealistic fuel usage data/information (l/100 km or MPG) ? And this is not only the VW issue I guess. Imho all manufacturers optimize their products to reach best results in some test either emission or fuel usage.
 

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Borrowed from another forum....

The current VW diesel engine scandal is not the first time the German company has mislead its customers, as demonstrated in this exclusive retrospective.

1950 - When asked who founded company, claims to have 'forgotten his name. Oh you know, chap with a moustache. Look, it's not important.'

1961 - Denies the existence of water, especially for cooling engines.

1973 - Admits to over 30 years of fitting engines 'at the wrong end'.

1981 - Launches Polo mk2, pretends not to know what 'brakes' are.

1989 - Claims front bumper brackets of facelift mk2 Golf are 'definitely strong enough'.

1991 - Promises glovebox lid of mk3 Golf will stay closed.

1995 - Describes Polo Harlequin as 'stylish'.

1997 - Accidentally uses GTI badge on mk4 Golf.

2003 - Claims to have sold a Phaeton to someone.

2006 - Admits all Passat TDIs in the outside lane of British motorways have secret ' :censored: mode'.
 

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I saw this on BBC news this morning, the person from Emissions Analytics was very cagey on how she stated things.

New Engine program would probably be about 1 Billion dollars incl the engine Design & equipping a factory.

I doubt very much if this affair will be less than a new engine, 11 million vehicles now affected according top the BBC article, and more importantly how many sales will they lose until customer confidence is restored.

Graphic from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34328689

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compare that to the recent Ford award for being one of the top 100 most ethical companies, and these are independent awards.

http://www.examiner.com/article/ford-motor-company-wins-ethics-award

http://www.ford.co.uk/experience-ford/AboutFord/top-100-ethical-companies
Looks like Ford are the good guys which is nice to know especially as we drive them.

Ford's problems the other year about incorrect mpg claims in the USA were kept fairly quiet - although they did issue good will payments to all owners.

http://www.ford.com/mpglabel/
I imagine what the good will payments would be to 11 million and counting VW owners.
 

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Ford's problems the other year about incorrect mpg claims in the USA were kept fairly quiet - although they did issue good will payments to all owners.

http://www.ford.com/mpglabel/
Unfortunately this is a common occurrence in the USA with their Fuel Economy regulations due to the way that Manufacturers are allowed to use another model with the same engine and correlate the values.

Ford are not the only ones to have had to do this kind of retrospective change.

https://www.google.de/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=us%20epa%20mpg%20recalls for a google search of manufacturers who have changed MPG figures for models in USA

Hyundai MPG Information: Hyundai Fuel Economy

Kia Fuel Economy | MPG Information

This VW Diesel Scandal Is Much Worse Than a Recall

And the latest from the BBC news desk - Audi says 2.1 million cars have 'cheat' emissions software
 

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I was also just reading an article regarding Tyre Labelling (EU legislation).

http://qube.just-auto.com/sectorcontent.aspx?scid=387

View attachment just-auto_Tyre_Labelling.pdf

The part I found interesting was:

Implementation of the tyre label regulation will be via selfcertification by the tyre manufacturers,
whilst the sanctions for misuse and infringements will be laid down by national law in each of the 27 EU states.
Validation will occur in spring 2016, some 40 months after the obligatory introduction of the EU tyre label,
and will take a critical look at whether the label is achieving ts objectives,
in particular the effectiveness of the requirements relating to point-of-sale communication.

I wonder just how accurate the Tyre labels really are???
 

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Hopefully fairy accurate Dave, however as the tyre labels are dictated by the manufacturer, who's to say that there isn't any subtle 'adjustment' of tyre labelling by manufacturers to enhance sales? I do wonder how much attention your average motorist pays to these tyre labels when purchasing tyres any way... :whistle:
 
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