Something serious needs to be done, Rock am Ring was evacuated on Friday because of a terror threat. Seem's to be getting worse everywhere! Scary place we live in these days! Festival Season has started and i regularly go to them, this won't put me off going but still anything can happen.

Whether this would help or not but you can freely go and buy a mobile sim card and register it, i work in the middle east and you need some sort of ID to get one and even in some cases you have to register your finger print! They should start this in the UK and Europe, who ever doesn't register gets cut off, the middle east have done this for terror reasons! (believe it or not )

 

Just watching this on CNN live (Janet and I are in Mexico) and can't believe it's happened again...

 

My son is up in London tonight, he walked over London bridge an hour before it happened, luckily safe now in a hotel near tower bridge. Just spoke to him on the phone, he said it is crazy up there.

 

Crazy just reading about it now. This is for Allah is what they were saying - what kind of stupidity is this?

 

Yep as above. We must be more hardline. Tolerant approach just leads to this. I was down london in that area recently..... london is trashed these days anyway, like most of the u.k.

 

When are the peaceful muslims (which are the majority) going to come out and publicly condemn these attacks.

never is my guess

 

Feel sorry for those involved. I know this area well. Very sad.

 

Glad to see that three attackers were killed by the police.

 

It's the nature of these attacks as well that's hard to know about and stop this kind of attack can be put together in an hour by four fanatics in a basement there's no thought or planning goes into it

I've seen loads of armed police this week out on patrol and it's great they took out these three as quick as they did

I don't have these answer I just feel for the victims which didn't deserve this

 

So sad and annoyed right now, enough is enough.

A strong stance taken by the PM and about time too.

 

RIP to the innocent life's lost and those affected/injured by these mindless *****

 

8 minutes for the police to get there and shoot the :f: :bow:

 

Time & time again this happens & will continue to do so unfortunately.

Until we take a no nonsense, we're not taking this anymore & adopt a proper hardline zero tolerance approach.

Something seriously needs to be done. I'm so angry with the current state of affairs in this country. We're far to PC for our own good, can't say this, can't say that, can't do this or that in case we you or I offend another religion.

I'd say it's a bit late for that if I'm honest. Terrible terrible state of affairs

Don't you think the authorities have thought about this? What does that statement actually mean? Any response must be measured or we confirm in the minds of these susceptible individuals that they are correct in their thinking with regard to the western world, and democracy in general.

Yes root them out, yes take appropriate action. But ensure that the action is being taken against the right people or we create a vehicle for radicalising others.

It's a very complex issue, not a simple "hardline" response.

 

It's terrible now. No where is safe. However, when coments are made of 'something seriously needs to be done' the question that follows is............What then?

What can be done? Police have been cut to simtherines, military were removed on reduction of the threat level, no one can have the intel that London Bridge was going to happen, and the Government want us to carry on as normal.

But, where can we implement measures which combats the issues at hand?

I hate it as much as the next person, and being a MET copper of 16 years that I am, I feel it more, when my collegues are getting killed.

RIP to those last night.....

 

Thoughts are with all involved. Well done to the firearms lads that dealt with these scum. I wonder in election week if Mr Corbyn will have changed his views on shoot to kill with regards to these animals.

 

Thoughts are with all involved. Well done to the firearms lads that dealt with these scum. I wonder in election week if Mr Corbyn will have changed his views on shoot to kill with regards to these animals.

Has he got a view against shoot to kill? - seeing the moderate (by comparison to lots of media outlets) put it's hands up for inaccurately reporting he was against shoot to kill.

He's been quite clear that he supports necessary action, and the response would have been the same regardless of who was PM last night imho

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bbc-trust-rules-laura-kuenssberg-misrepresented-jeremy-corbyn-a7533096.html

We shouldn't be using what is an act of terror for political gain - I'm against that in any shape or form

 

This unfortunately is going to become a frequent topic to post about.

 

8 minutes for the police to get there and shoot the :f: :bow:

7m 50secs too long IMHO Graeme.

IMHO these response times are a consequence of decades of running down the police service and other services (fire/NHS/Care etc)in the UK.

Whilst I don't personally like the idea of armed police on patrol, however, maybe it has come to that now for British citizens?

without sufficient police officers on the streets of our major cities we will have to accept poor response times to situations such as this,

some might say 8 minutes is good, but if one of your family were a victim would people still say that?

Unfortunately I don't see anything changing, the election rhetoric is exactly that, rhetoric, some politicians will jump on the bandwagon of this & the Manchester attack and then do sweat F.A.

 

Thoughts are with all involved. Well done to the firearms lads that dealt with these scum. I wonder in election week if Mr Corbyn will have changed his views on shoot to kill with regards to these animals.

Please direct me to any reliable source which indicates that is JC's position.

If not don't promote misinformation as truth. When you do you're no better than some of the politicians we decry for the same unacceptable actions.

 

There you go.

 

There you go.

Perhaps you didn't listen to what was actually said. He did not say he was against shoot to kill, but was unhappy with a shoot to kill policy. He said he wanted to avoid a war on the streets, which I suggest we all want to avoid.

He has continuously stated his position on this and reiterated the need to try to address the problem at its root. I believe this is what resulted in the resolution in Northern Ireland.

Yes he was not in favour of shoot to kill as a policy, but I think most rational people would not be in favour of such a policy. Last night a member of the public was shot in the mayhem. With a shoot to kill policy we would have more of those terrible mistakes.

Another point to note about this attack is that they wanted to be shot by fooling the police and bystanders into believing they had suicide vests. In this case they were undeterred by the thought that they could be shot.

I don't know how we resolve this threat, but I do think that simply shooting people would not be the answer.

 

Wake up and smell the coffee. There is a war on our streets and the only way to beat these animals is to kill them before they kill us.
Jeremy views the world through rose tinted glasses and in a perfect world I'd agree with a lot he says, but unfortunately we don't.
The bloke is a joke.

 

Perhaps you didn't listen to what was actually said. He did not say he was against shoot to kill, but was unhappy with a shoot to kill policy. He said he wanted to avoid a war on the streets, which I suggest we all want to avoid.

He has continuously stated his position on this and reiterated the need to try to address the problem at its root. I believe this is what resulted in the resolution in Northern Ireland.

Yes he was not in favour of shoot to kill as a policy, but I think most rational people would not be in favour of such a policy. Last night a member of the public was shot in the mayhem. With a shoot to kill policy we would have more of those terrible mistakes.

Another point to note about this attack is that they wanted to be shot by fooling the police and bystanders into believing they had suicide vests. In this case they were undeterred by the thought that they could be shot.

I don't know how we resolve this threat, but I do think that simply shooting people would not be the answer.

If people are going around stabbing people or what ever what do you suggest.............. I'm rational and I say shot to kill the ****s. The liberal limp wristed approach is not what we need right now.

No they wanted people to be scared they were about to be blown up and not tackle them such as the cowards they are.

 

Guys lets keep the political aspect of this in the election thread shall we.

I believe this post was meant for sharing our personal views & to empathise with those affected.

not to go attacking each others view' s . thanks

 

7m 50secs too long IMHO Graeme.

IMHO these response times are a consequence of decades of running down the police service and other services (fire/NHS/Care etc)in the UK.

Whilst I don't personally like the idea of armed police on patrol, however, maybe it has come to that now for British citizens?

without sufficient police officers on the streets of our major cities we will have to accept poor response times to situations such as this, some might say 8 minutes is good, but if one of your family were a victim would people still say that?

Unfortunately I don't see anything changing, the election rhetoric is exactly that, rhetoric, some will jump on the bandwagon of this & the Manchester attack and then do sweat F.A.

8 mins did seem a long time to me also in central London but without knowing the logistics of the situation it's hard to say.