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Hi I’m looking at buying a Frozen white mk2 and would like some advice ,it’s a one owner 40,000 mile car full Ford history the only issue I can find with the car is some blisters on the drivers side rear arch where it meets the side skirt the problem is as well is the car has full xpel ppf so some of the ppf would have to be cut away to allow for a repair then ppf reapplied to the area .

the car is not cheap it’s 32k from a Ford dealer , the question is do I not by the car for this issue or is it something that is not tha much of an issue. Thanks in advance. Kev.
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White seems to be the colour that suffers most, it's not an issue in terms of the car's drivability (that's after 12-13 years), but it's something that needs to be sorted and ideally the sooner the better, it does look as if some paint has been put there at some point.
 

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At that price any imperfection (yet alone rust) is not acceptable.

If they wont fix it properly or reduce their price then move on. There is always another car to buy.

IMHO £32k is far to high for a Mk2 Focus RS in the current market. Make no mistake, the post covid boom is over. Any seller who says otherwise is doing so for their own purpose. Car dealers have no authority to suggest (yet alone guarantee) any form of investment as a result of buying a car, their job is to get as much as they car for any car they sell. Not a comment on the car but the price some sellers ask for.

Of course it is up to anyone to decide how and where to spend their money, but don't cry if the car you buy is worth 50% less than you paid a few years down the road. Past gains are not a guarantee of future profit.
 

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i agree it seems overpriced for the miles and condition,the whole rear quarter would need rewrapping after any paint to do a proper job so id look for a better example personally, it doesnt look like the usual problem where the bumpers rubbed the arch but more like arch lip corrosion probably not helped by the wrap holding any moisture in
 

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As others say. Will need stripping back & repainting, the other side may not be far behind either.

I think in immaculate condition it's a £26k car from a dealer, in that condition with the work needed around £24k.

Some may say that's too low but even though we'd all love our cars to be worth top money, realistically they aren't!

Only sub 20k miles cars in truly immaculate condition are worth £30k +.
 

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Mine wasn’t as bad as that and I did both my rear quarters been mint ever since 4-5 years ago. If everything else is good then tell them you want it but both rear arches need doing properly before you have it. I doubt they will do it though but can’t see them selling it at that price with how it is? If they agree ask for proof of work during the process to make sure it’s been done right. All the focus rs mk2s will have this problem even the lower miler minters so a spray job is inevitable on these cars.
 

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As above. However, it might be worth checking if the dealer does their own paint jobs because in my experience they're not usually very good at it!
You could make a cheeeky offer, say £25K, and see what they say because, as has been said, they are very unlikely to sell it for that price which means it'll be hanging around on their site/sites for months. Not a good look!
 

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Mine wasn’t as bad as that and I did both my rear quarters been mint ever since 4-5 years ago. If everything else is good then tell them you want it but both rear arches need doing properly before you have it. I doubt they will do it though but can’t see them selling it at that price with how it is? If they agree ask for proof of work during the process to make sure it’s been done right. All the focus rs mk2s will have this problem even the lower miler minters so a spray job is inevitable on these cars.
Fortunately, mine hasn't (not yet anyway). It has lived a very pampered life though and never goes anywhere, which may have something to do with it :rolleyes:.
 

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In my experience of 30 years of dealing with rusty arches on various cars ive owned, once they bubble like that its really hard to stop, You can repair them by grinding and using rust treatments and then filler but you are always playing a waiting game for it to come back through. It may last a year or it may last a few weeks. The only way to stop it for good it to fully cut out the rust and weld in new steel then cover the rear of the repair area with cavity wax so air and moisture cant get to it.

Id say you want at least 5k off the price and thats assuming the rest of the car is immaculate. I wouldnt let them do the repair either, you need somebody with experience in repairing classic car bodywork who is used to dealing with this kind of work.
 

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You may think so but I’ve seen plenty of “minters with low mileage with blistered arches fact. I agree using the word all was maybe a little harsh but most will suffer this issue.
They weren't "minters" then were they.
That rust comes through useage, stone chips, water, salt, or if your unlucky bumper "rub".

Why would a car that has not seen any of that then rust?.

Maybe we have different ideas of what's a nice car?.
 

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They weren't "minters" then were they.
That rust comes through useage, stone chips, water, salt, or if your unlucky bumper "rub".

Why would a car that has not seen any of that then rust?.

Maybe we have different ideas of what's a nice car?.
If he wants perfection then the op will pay the premium but tbh if he wants one with 40 k miles give or take he will see a lot of rs mk2s with a similar issue if they haven’t been done already which was my point. I know what a nice car is but I’m also a realist. I don’t wrap mine in silk I use mine as intended and look after it also as and when I needs it. No disrespect to those that never use them either it’s our own choice. Let’s not forget it’s just a focus and a ****** good one just need to accept a lot aint perfect. Mine was original paint which my painter said was woefully thin especially on the inner lip.. at this point mine had done 45k miles I think.. my previous post wasn’t an attack towards your car I’m sure it’s lovely just trying to put some perspective on what I have seen and I have looked at a lot at shows and when I was buying. Hope the op finds the right one for him 👍🏻
 

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If he wants perfection then the op will pay the premium but tbh if he wants one with 40 k miles give or take he will see a lot of rs mk2s with a similar issue if they haven’t been done already which was my point. I know what a nice car is but I’m also a realist. I don’t wrap mine in silk I use mine as intended and look after it also as and when I needs it. No disrespect to those that never use them either it’s our own choice. Let’s not forget it’s just a focus and a ** good one just need to accept a lot aint perfect. Mine was original paint which my painter said was woefully thin especially on the inner lip.. at this point mine had done 45k miles I think.. my previous post wasn’t an attack towards your car I’m sure it’s lovely just trying to put some perspective on what I have seen and I have looked at a lot at shows and when I was buying. Hope the op finds the right one for him 👍🏻
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If he wants perfection then the op will pay the premium but tbh if he wants one with 40 k miles give or take he will see a lot of rs mk2s with a similar issue if they haven’t been done already which was my point. I know what a nice car is but I’m also a realist. I don’t wrap mine in silk I use mine as intended and look after it also as and when I needs it. No disrespect to those that never use them either it’s our own choice. Let’s not forget it’s just a focus and a ** good one just need to accept a lot aint perfect. Mine was original paint which my painter said was woefully thin especially on the inner lip.. at this point mine had done 45k miles I think.. my previous post wasn’t an attack towards your car I’m sure it’s lovely just trying to put some perspective on what I have seen and I have looked at a lot at shows and when I was buying. Hope the op finds the right one for him 👍🏻
I agree, if your talking about used ones with that sort of mileage.

What threw me was the "they all rust".

I think its a difference in opinion of what we would each call a genuinely nice car.

I'd still say you'll find one with higher mileage 30-40k that's not been painted, it's just that extra mile some owners go to.
 
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