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Has anyone got either? Preferably the ST Line 140

The better other half is looking at a smaller car and monthly costs due to working hours been cut back

We looked at a few makes and models one of which was the Polo R Line 1.0 litre 95 hp. It is a nice car, solid and well put together plenty of room for a small car but it just lacks that oooomph
Power is a must as its a hilly area we live in.

She was set on a Seat Ibiza FR?????? Went to look at the new one and it is terrible compared to the older models. A new one now has drums for brakes? Have we gone back in time to the 70s/80s?

As me been a Ford follower and dont get me wrong the missus loves the RS the older ST never struck a chord with her but the facelift model has

Some cracking prices out there now and Im sure good deals to be made and in honesty Id love to have a play in the new ST looks a rapid little thing

I bet the 1.0 140 hp is nippy too?

Any advice be greatly appreciated

Thanks

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If you are looking at a new one, the mild hybrid 150/155PS engine has just been announced for the Fiesta.
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If you are looking at a new one, the mild hybrid 150/155PS engine has just been announced for the Fiesta.

I was just about to say the exact same thing!!! :excl:

Hold off and buy the Ecoboost Mild Hybrid Fiesta :woohoo: 150bhp! :bow:

The only reason they've held off for so long with the mild hybrid Fiesta is to push that awful Puma sales!!! :sick:  another flop like the KA+ sadly, I can see it a mile off!! :yawn: :nope:

But the Fiesta will sell miles better!! 8) :thumbsup:



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Click on the Fiesta St site and ask the lads on there, they seem a knowledgeable lot, I take it your after a s/h used car? I had a mk8 st for a short while, lovely thing to drive, try and get the misses a test drive in one.

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I looked at st’s for my misses in the end got her a Fiat Abarth real nice cars imo quick and handle road really well  :nice:



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Has anyone got either? Preferably the ST Line 140

The better other half is looking at a smaller car and monthly costs due to working hours been cut back

We looked at a few makes and models one of which was the Polo R Line 1.0 litre 95 hp. It is a nice car, solid and well put together plenty of room for a small car but it just lacks that oooomph
Power is a must as its a hilly area we live in.

She was set on a Seat Ibiza FR?????? Went to look at the new one and it is terrible compared to the older models. A new one now has drums for brakes? Have we gone back in time to the 70s/80s?

As me been a Ford follower and dont get me wrong the missus loves the RS the older ST never struck a chord with her but the facelift model has

Some cracking prices out there now and Im sure good deals to be made and in honesty Id love to have a play in the new ST looks a rapid little thing

I bet the 1.0 140 hp is nippy too?

Any advice be greatly appreciated

Thanks

 

My wife has a 5 door ST Line X 140, had it for 2 & half trouble free years. Very nice car, nippy yes, but not going to tear up the tarmac (though it can be remapped to around 170BHP I believe).

 

A big step forward in terms of interior equipment compared to the mk7, but you need to get the ST Line X as it has a bigger screen in the dash (between the dials) and a lot of things standard that are usually extras.

Her only regret, small one, is not to have speced electric rear windows.



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Booked a test drive for both
ST Line and ST
Yes it’s a used or pre registered one she’s looking at

She does like the Abarth too but I think it’s a bit small for what she needs

I know the used car sales bloke at the local dealership and he’s got the new ST, acquired in March then we went into lockdown and it’s only just been driven in a week since re opening

Fully loaded with all extras global roof etc etc etc

To be honest I’m looking forward for a blip in it

Me personally I think this is the best option for what she wants. And seen as though she drives mine a lot I’ll use the ST
Well mines garaged at the moment not been anywhere in months now in it.

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Fair enough if you can't wait as you can't go wrong with the Mk8... :cool:

But I can't wait to see this Ecoboost Mild Hybrid! :yep:
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Love mine Andy nice looker in the best colour fully loaded  8)



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Fair enough if you can't wait as you can't go wrong with the Mk8... :cool:
But I can't wait to see this Ecoboost Mild Hybrid! :yep:
:nice:

The 150/155PS version is the engine I had been testing and developing over the past few years at Dunton. It paid for my RS. :)
I did get to drive a test mule a few years ago on the test track, but they could only get it to run in normal mode where the electric motor adds 20Nm of torque, in Sport mode it adds 50Nm. The engineer who's test car I drove said in normal mode, put it up against a 140PS Fiesta in a 0-60 drag race and the 150 PS is just in front, in Sport mode it will pull out quite a lead.
Engineer I was working with last week had a Puma 155PS recently, he said it averaged 50mpg on the motorway, then he drove it into London, with lots of stop start traffic and it still remained at 50mpg. The stop/start works differently on the Mhev. The engine just cuts out below a certain speed as you slow down to stop, then when you go to pull away again, it does so on the electric motor before the engine restarts.
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The 150/155PS version is the engine I had been testing and developing over the past few years at Dunton. It paid for my RS. :)
I did get to drive a test mule a few years ago on the test track, but they could only get it to run in normal mode where the electric motor adds 20Nm of torque, in Sport mode it adds 50Nm. The engineer who's test car I drove said in normal mode, put it up against a 140PS Fiesta in a 0-60 drag race and the 150 PS is just in front, in Sport mode it will pull out quite a lead.
Engineer I was working with last week had a Puma 155PS recently, he said it averaged 50mpg on the motorway, then he drove it into London, with lots of stop start traffic and it still remained at 50mpg. The stop/start works differently on the Mhev. The engine just cuts out below a certain speed as you slow down to stop, then when you go to pull away again, it does so on the electric motor before the engine restarts.


Mmmm that’s some good info, appreciate that
What waaa lass uses a car for is work and back, shopping or general runs out unless we go away for a weekend but that hasn’t happened this year

City/town driving is out of the equation completely
Motorway yeah on weekends away or spirited drives out, with an ST she can keep up with us
A few lads locally have a range of RS cars from a Mk1 escort Mexico to the S2 Turbo and WRC escort Cosworth

Then mine which is the newest

I’m working on her to go this route

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The ST/ST Line Facebook group quite often report engine and gearbox failures. I suspect that they are ragging the :censored: out of them then wondering why they give up.



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The ST/ST Line Facebook group quite often report engine and gearbox failures. I suspect that they are ragging the :censored: out of them then wondering why they give up.

What age are the cars? The 1.0 EcoBoost was upgraded and been available in cars for about a year or so. The original engine has the turbo at the front and the exhaust runs under the sump. The new engine has the turbo at the back of the engine. New engine has cylinder deactivation sp it will run on two cylinders when there is low load on the engine. Not heard of any failures on the latest engine, if there was loads we would have been trying to find a fix at work. The older engines had problems with degas pipes going hard and rupturing leading to blown head gaskets. Ford had a recall for that a couple of years ago.

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What age are the cars? The 1.0 EcoBoost was upgraded and been available in cars for about a year or so. The original engine has the turbo at the front and the exhaust runs under the sump. The new engine has the turbo at the back of the engine. New engine has cylinder deactivation sp it will run on two cylinders when there is low load on the engine. Not heard of any failures on the latest engine, if there was loads we would have been trying to find a fix at work. The older engines had problems with degas pipes going hard and rupturing leading to blown head gaskets. Ford had a recall for that a couple of years ago.

The last model, not the latest one.



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Ahhhh, another interesting read, I forgot about that problem but it was on the older models
My cousins young lad engine popped but was replaced under the recall scheme

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Ahhhh, another interesting read, I forgot about that problem but it was on the older models
My cousins young lad engine popped but was replaced under the recall scheme

you going for the MK8?



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you going for the MK8?

If that’s the most recent model, yes
Booked in for a test drive of the ST Line and ST-2 or 3

Tother half driving though unless they let me test drive too?
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The GF has an ST200 which is obviously based on the MK7 and I have a Performance Edition which is the orange MK8. Theyre both amazing cars, dont get me wrong I love my RS but its no chore driving either Fiesta, in fact theyre more fun in a lot of circumstances. Id encourage you to go down the full ST route, the lesser models are good but they arent a hot hatch. It depends what youre looking for but if youre wanting something that can be a fun but reasonably economical runaround through the week, but can fulfil hooligan duties complete with pops and bangs on a weekend, the ST is perfect IMO. Any Fiesta can do the former as its a good little car in general but only the ST can do both.
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Hooligan duties! Love it
Didn’t know they popped and banged though? Nice to know

Waa lass is far from a hooligans though but when she drives mine it’s obvious there’s the making of one, worse than me

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The GF has an ST200 which is obviously based on the MK7 and I have a Performance Edition which is the orange MK8. Theyre both amazing cars, dont get me wrong I love my RS but its no chore driving either Fiesta, in fact theyre more fun in a lot of circumstances. Id encourage you to go down the full ST route, the lesser models are good but they arent a hot hatch. It depends what youre looking for but if youre wanting something that can be a fun but reasonably economical runaround through the week, but can fulfil hooligan duties complete with pops and bangs on a weekend, the ST is perfect IMO. Any Fiesta can do the former as its a good little car in general but only the ST can do both.

 

Mrs G had a Mk7 ST and recently chopped it in for a Performance Edition - would completely agree it's no chore driving the Fiesta.

 

Had a MK8 ST-Line as a courtesy car earlier in the year, and it was pretty good. Pretty sure there is a 2020.25 refresh due any time, so might be some good deals about on pre-reg cars - especially due to the whole Covid thing (we got a deal we couldn't turn down on the PE)


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